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		<title>By: Kanashimi</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanashimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1630</guid>
		<description>Yes, there has been quite a lot of replies to this entry, which I don't normally see. Maybe I should talk about news more often then boring episode opinions, eh?

In the end, I don't like to support an industry that makes bad decisions. I remember way back in the day I bought a lot of Pioneer products, remember them? Then again, the now Genon is now gone from the US. Thinking over my collection I have a lot of Urban Vision too, which is funny for me since they don’t really release a lot of popular titles. I also remember (since I’m not home right now I can’t really look at my collection) that I have a few ADV and a ton of Central Park Media. Though thinking back I’m sure I bought a majority of those items relatively cheap. Actually, I’m almost positive that many of the companies I listed had a decent price on the item in question buying them up to six or so years ago.

I’m like any anime fan, if I see a title I love and I believe the dubbers will do a decent job I’ll buy it. I would have purchased Kanon if not for the pure evil produced by the English voice actors (I’m sorry Boone, it’s not for you). Yet I’ve found I’m rare in the fact I actually enjoy some dubs, so this is a crossroad for me. Subtitles are nice, but I like to see what the studio is trying to do as well to almost localize the product. If Bandai continues to make poor decisions then that’s their problem, I don’t see why I should support them for asking me to buy a DVD and make a donation to the ‘save the industry before fansubbers murder us foundation’.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there has been quite a lot of replies to this entry, which I don&#8217;t normally see. Maybe I should talk about news more often then boring episode opinions, eh?</p>
<p>In the end, I don&#8217;t like to support an industry that makes bad decisions. I remember way back in the day I bought a lot of Pioneer products, remember them? Then again, the now Genon is now gone from the US. Thinking over my collection I have a lot of Urban Vision too, which is funny for me since they don’t really release a lot of popular titles. I also remember (since I’m not home right now I can’t really look at my collection) that I have a few ADV and a ton of Central Park Media. Though thinking back I’m sure I bought a majority of those items relatively cheap. Actually, I’m almost positive that many of the companies I listed had a decent price on the item in question buying them up to six or so years ago.</p>
<p>I’m like any anime fan, if I see a title I love and I believe the dubbers will do a decent job I’ll buy it. I would have purchased Kanon if not for the pure evil produced by the English voice actors (I’m sorry Boone, it’s not for you). Yet I’ve found I’m rare in the fact I actually enjoy some dubs, so this is a crossroad for me. Subtitles are nice, but I like to see what the studio is trying to do as well to almost localize the product. If Bandai continues to make poor decisions then that’s their problem, I don’t see why I should support them for asking me to buy a DVD and make a donation to the ‘save the industry before fansubbers murder us foundation’.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1615</guid>
		<description>The only anime dvd I ever bought was $10. I found it in the "random misc crap that no one buys" section of a dvd/music store. Ah! My Goddess Volume 1 (the old version). Comes to $3.33/episode.

Most companies out there (Bandai specifically) don't seem to understand the very simple concept of "lower the price, more people will buy it". Especially nowadays when you can illegitimately download pretty much any show you want for free.

I wouldn't do so if anime didn't cost $10, $15 or even $20 per episode.

Another thing, I'm not even sure if I want to support licensing in North America. To be honest, it's a far better situation to have no licensing, since we'd get the shows through fansubbers anyway.

I'd love to know what kind of cut Japan get's from the North American market anyway? DrmChsr0 made a good point about Japan. If you want to make the supporting the industry argument, I'd rather support Anime more directly if it were possible.

Anyway, I enjoy your rant Kana! It's an issue that hit's a sore spot on many an anime fan (lot's of replies to this post eh? lol).

~Chris aka CanadaAotS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only anime dvd I ever bought was $10. I found it in the &#8220;random misc crap that no one buys&#8221; section of a dvd/music store. Ah! My Goddess Volume 1 (the old version). Comes to $3.33/episode.</p>
<p>Most companies out there (Bandai specifically) don&#8217;t seem to understand the very simple concept of &#8220;lower the price, more people will buy it&#8221;. Especially nowadays when you can illegitimately download pretty much any show you want for free.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t do so if anime didn&#8217;t cost $10, $15 or even $20 per episode.</p>
<p>Another thing, I&#8217;m not even sure if I want to support licensing in North America. To be honest, it&#8217;s a far better situation to have no licensing, since we&#8217;d get the shows through fansubbers anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know what kind of cut Japan get&#8217;s from the North American market anyway? DrmChsr0 made a good point about Japan. If you want to make the supporting the industry argument, I&#8217;d rather support Anime more directly if it were possible.</p>
<p>Anyway, I enjoy your rant Kana! It&#8217;s an issue that hit&#8217;s a sore spot on many an anime fan (lot&#8217;s of replies to this post eh? lol).</p>
<p>~Chris aka CanadaAotS</p>
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		<title>By: DrmChsr0</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>DrmChsr0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1529</guid>
		<description>1. Bandai Visual is actually Bandai in disguise.

2. Japan hates the R1 companies, and would love the entire industry to die a horrible death so that they can come in as the "heroes"  and trick everyone into directly contributing to their coffers by doing what the people want.

3. Bang for buck? You'll only want more with that kind of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Bandai Visual is actually Bandai in disguise.</p>
<p>2. Japan hates the R1 companies, and would love the entire industry to die a horrible death so that they can come in as the &#8220;heroes&#8221;  and trick everyone into directly contributing to their coffers by doing what the people want.</p>
<p>3. Bang for buck? You&#8217;ll only want more with that kind of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1527</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1527</guid>
		<description>"There is no show with only two episodes worth forty dollars, maybe for some of you out there, but surely not for me."

If said two episodes where the only two of an epic OVA, than I'd probably buy it. 

But I'm not made of money, and I'm not interested at the moment in buying an anime series with just two episodes at a time for a price where I could get an entire series from other companies. :/

As other people have said though, if the bang &lt;I&gt;was&lt;/I&gt; worth the buck or if there was more added value-wise than there need to be, if the series was good enough I would buy it. 

At the moment, I do think that &lt;a href="http://bignanime.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/initial-impressions-on-shigofumi-it%e2%80%99s-a-very-very-mad-world/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Shigofumi is good&lt;/a&gt;, so we'll see what happens. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no show with only two episodes worth forty dollars, maybe for some of you out there, but surely not for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>If said two episodes where the only two of an epic OVA, than I&#8217;d probably buy it. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not made of money, and I&#8217;m not interested at the moment in buying an anime series with just two episodes at a time for a price where I could get an entire series from other companies. :/</p>
<p>As other people have said though, if the bang <i>was</i> worth the buck or if there was more added value-wise than there need to be, if the series was good enough I would buy it. </p>
<p>At the moment, I do think that <a href="http://bignanime.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/initial-impressions-on-shigofumi-it%e2%80%99s-a-very-very-mad-world/" rel="nofollow">Shigofumi is good</a>, so we&#8217;ll see what happens. :P</p>
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		<title>By: The Otakusphere: Pacing Problems, cultural literacy and the evil that is Bandai Visual &#171; In Search of Number Nine</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>The Otakusphere: Pacing Problems, cultural literacy and the evil that is Bandai Visual &#171; In Search of Number Nine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1519</guid>
		<description>[...] the Bitch Knows had a pretty fascinating post on Shigofumi (and Bandai Visual&#8217;s release on it). The first part brought up an interesting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the Bitch Knows had a pretty fascinating post on Shigofumi (and Bandai Visual&#8217;s release on it). The first part brought up an interesting [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Probert</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Probert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1517</guid>
		<description>Honestly, I think that's a tough call. On the one hand, Bandai Visual is making a bad decision by how they're releasing their shows. But as much as I don't think "supporting the industry" is a good argument for buying DVDs, but on the other hand I don't think "punishing the company" is a good argument for not buying them. It's a tough call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think that&#8217;s a tough call. On the one hand, Bandai Visual is making a bad decision by how they&#8217;re releasing their shows. But as much as I don&#8217;t think &#8220;supporting the industry&#8221; is a good argument for buying DVDs, but on the other hand I don&#8217;t think &#8220;punishing the company&#8221; is a good argument for not buying them. It&#8217;s a tough call.</p>
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		<title>By: muhootsaver</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1516</link>
		<dc:creator>muhootsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1516</guid>
		<description>BV USA is betting on harcore buyers to buy these releases. I think with Blue-ray coming out with no region coding, they are being extra-sensitive with reverse import. The thing is though, their release never was same as R2. Most of them missing R2 extras. Gunbuster with f*cked up audio etc. Gunbuster movie, my r2 has long-ass interview sessions with the cast. R1? nadda, but with almost matching price. So they are asking us to cough off the same amount of money as R2 buyers...when content is actually less. Which is ridiculous. But yeah, some will still buy their release, because it is not like the show will come from any other r1 licensors. ~_~ Quite sad really. As for me, I'm not interested in any of those series so I'm fine for now. As for this season being mediocre, I agree. I'm not really into any of the series this season. Wolf and spice showed some potential...but frankly, recent episodes were a bit disappointing. (probably because I already read the novel...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BV USA is betting on harcore buyers to buy these releases. I think with Blue-ray coming out with no region coding, they are being extra-sensitive with reverse import. The thing is though, their release never was same as R2. Most of them missing R2 extras. Gunbuster with f*cked up audio etc. Gunbuster movie, my r2 has long-ass interview sessions with the cast. R1? nadda, but with almost matching price. So they are asking us to cough off the same amount of money as R2 buyers&#8230;when content is actually less. Which is ridiculous. But yeah, some will still buy their release, because it is not like the show will come from any other r1 licensors. ~_~ Quite sad really. As for me, I&#8217;m not interested in any of those series so I&#8217;m fine for now. As for this season being mediocre, I agree. I&#8217;m not really into any of the series this season. Wolf and spice showed some potential&#8230;but frankly, recent episodes were a bit disappointing. (probably because I already read the novel&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: skuchi</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>skuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1506</guid>
		<description>i wasn't sure if i'd watch shigofumi at first, but now after watching the first 4, i really don't regret starting the series. hopefully bandai won't send out messages to the subgroups, because then they'll go to hell. and i bet no one will !_evar_! buy the dvd's (except for the fanatics). and about the 40$; GADGET GALORE PLEASE! :&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wasn&#8217;t sure if i&#8217;d watch shigofumi at first, but now after watching the first 4, i really don&#8217;t regret starting the series. hopefully bandai won&#8217;t send out messages to the subgroups, because then they&#8217;ll go to hell. and i bet no one will !_evar_! buy the dvd&#8217;s (except for the fanatics). and about the 40$; GADGET GALORE PLEASE! :&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: cyruz</title>
		<link>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>cyruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bitch.faithfuldreamer.net/archives/66#comment-1505</guid>
		<description>It's true, we should thank them for listening. They did indeed not fully understand it yet though.

I am not located in the US, that's why I care less about release dates of Anime DVDs in the States (that's the place where they're released first after airing on Japanese TV aftrer all), it always takes them another year or two to release the stuff here in Germany. German dubs suck too so I for one am not happy about any licensing at all - to me it just means that the good Fansub Groups will most likely stop releasing the few good anime of the current season.

You're right Kana, apart from Spice &#38; Wolf, True Tears, and Shigofumi, this season is terribly average. And some shows are just bad; Rosario + Vampire is one of the most stupid ecchi comedies up to date (no, the overly used fanservce is not funny - other shows do that way, WAY better, I've seen those, too) and H2O which started off pretty promising started to suck (bad) soon after episode 2. I'll refrain from listing all the other Winter Anime right now.

So yeah, the prices are rediculous. I'm sticking to my fansubs and no one's going to stop my anytime soon. Fuck the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, we should thank them for listening. They did indeed not fully understand it yet though.</p>
<p>I am not located in the US, that&#8217;s why I care less about release dates of Anime DVDs in the States (that&#8217;s the place where they&#8217;re released first after airing on Japanese TV aftrer all), it always takes them another year or two to release the stuff here in Germany. German dubs suck too so I for one am not happy about any licensing at all - to me it just means that the good Fansub Groups will most likely stop releasing the few good anime of the current season.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right Kana, apart from Spice &amp; Wolf, True Tears, and Shigofumi, this season is terribly average. And some shows are just bad; Rosario + Vampire is one of the most stupid ecchi comedies up to date (no, the overly used fanservce is not funny - other shows do that way, WAY better, I&#8217;ve seen those, too) and H2O which started off pretty promising started to suck (bad) soon after episode 2. I&#8217;ll refrain from listing all the other Winter Anime right now.</p>
<p>So yeah, the prices are rediculous. I&#8217;m sticking to my fansubs and no one&#8217;s going to stop my anytime soon. Fuck the industry.</p>
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